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  Beating PhpNuke Captcha, is it Possible?

Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 @ 15:51 by floppy
In my travels across the web today, I stumbled across a cool post about beating various captcha security types.  One of the methods referred to PhpNuke and SMF.
My attack against PHP-Nuke is taking advantage of the fact that there are only 10^6 or a 1,000,000 possible combinations of this captcha. It only takes a few minuets to calculate all possibilities. I am storing the results in as a md5 hash in a SQL database for speed. The entire SQL table needed to crack this captcha with 100% accuracy takes up less than 43 megabytes. After the table is generated it take only a few seconds to crack a captcha. This is a time-memory trade off very similar to Rainbow Crack. Let me be very clear that I am not relying on MD5 for security and in fact a faster and much less secure message digest function like Tiger is better suited for this task. MD5 is being used as an attack tool because it saves a lot of space and time verses storing the entire image in the database.

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In theory, anything man made can surely be destroyed by man.  However, I don't know if it would work with the type captcha that RavenNuke or Evo uses, but the I am sure it is possible with minor variations.  My question would be what is the next line of defense?  Some thoughts here are these:

For User Registrations

Make sure you require email validations.  It surely will not stop a spammer, but might slow them down some.

Admin Login

Make sure you are guarded by .htaccess auth possibly from Nuke Sentinel.  This is just one more layer of protection for your site.  They would have to bypass that to even defeat the captcha and hammer the admin login.

Comments & Downloads

Comments may be of some concern, possibly a approval setting where admins must approve comments similar to a Wordpress blog.  Downloads is not a big big deal, but massive captcha defeat could add tons of stress to the server.

Like I said above, any system is beatable, but a second line of defense (or maybe a third) is not a bad idea.

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Untergang

Untergang writes 
I have the security code on, but indeed they keep making accounts. The problem is they can't pass the email validation :)

Friday, July 11, 2008 @ 09:18

kunzicool

kunzicool writes 
I have no clue :( i have same problem

Friday, July 11, 2008 @ 09:33

kunzicool

kunzicool writes 
yeah validation isnt passing :(

Friday, July 11, 2008 @ 18:16

Duck

Duck writes 
Funny thing is I DO NOT USE EMAIL VALIDATION on my site and ever since I beefed up Forum Permissions I have not had 1 piece of spam in over a year and a half! So I don't believe Email Validation is necessary and is a damn PITA for people on a Clan site. Now a site designed to cater to 1000's like this one instead of a Clan site which is designed to cater to a few dozen or a couple hundred t might be more useful but otherwise why waste the users time. And as far as Automating email validation for a Spammer that's 100 times easier than busting the CAPTCHA believe it or not. But a new level a Security would be good for Nuke and I have a future project in mind that should do a far better job than the average captcha though as said everything Man Made can be destroyed by Man (and then some) so I am sure somebody will find a way to hack it somehow but it will be system based on Admin designed challenge response not a number generation system therefor the possibilities are endless and also unique to all sites so it'll take more than a brute for to crack.

Monday, July 14, 2008 @ 22:20

Untergang

Untergang writes 
Well the spam on my site started with posing comments, then adding links, then posting on my forums. I edited all that, now you have to be registered to do those things. There's no more spam on those thing. My only problem is the accounts, something keeps making accounts. But they don't pass the email validation, yet. As long as they don't pass that, everything is ok ;)

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 04:57

blade428

blade428 writes 
cool

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 16:49

floppy

floppy writes 
cool
I am banning you now, one word comments suck man get a life.

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 17:02

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