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| Wman21 writes That's bad news .... |
Sunday, June 17, 2007 @ 05:28 |
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| Ped writes Yeah i suppose but some people will see it as good news, in particular there main rivals , Evo clans surley they will get all there traffic. WHat would you like to see replace PNC if anything ? |
Sunday, June 17, 2007 @ 05:50 |
| Duckster writes Just to give you an update the Staff at PNC has moved to another project (not quite clan oriented at this moment) for much the same reasons you mentioned why you left. Lack of respect by the person in charge. Anyway the staff while not continuing development of PNC anymore will still provide support to the community from the site of it's new project. We care about the community and don't believe in leaving them abandoned. There will be a news announcement about this very soon. |
Sunday, June 17, 2007 @ 12:35 |
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| floppy writes There is no way anyone in there right mind will pay $950 for that. I want to know what makes him think someone would. Anyone who knows him please point him this way. |
Monday, June 18, 2007 @ 09:12 |
| Duckster writes LOL yup he's a little off his rocker that one! He certainly had a fitting User Name: CrazyCrack (or was it Crazy-on-Crack? lol) |
Monday, June 18, 2007 @ 09:40 |
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| floppy writes I am not slamming him. I just wanna know where he gets his basis. PageRank of 4 Alexa Rank of 502,674 Age: 9 Months, 4 days Indexed Pages for www.phpnuke-clan.net Google: 29,000 MSN Search: 2,579 Yahoo!: 4,917 AlltheWeb: 4,100 Backlinks: 2,101 phpnuke-clan.net has the IP address: 67.19.196.74 We found 8 other sites hosted on the IP address 67.19.196.74 1) affiliate.phpnuke-clan.net 2) demo.phpnuke-clan.net 3) devilzclan.com 4) gamerthemes.com 5) phpnuke-clan.net 6) phpnuke-guild.com This is my workup on this domain, where is his? |
Monday, June 18, 2007 @ 09:50 |
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| Ped writes Getting his next line ready ! lmao |
Monday, June 18, 2007 @ 10:46 |
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| Ped writes Crazy Crack posted the below message last night but it got stopped by Sentinel so I will post it instead: I can understand some of you. Yes its true it piss off! But I'm also piss off. I start that project 4 years ago with nothing. With the time some staff have join the team. So left and some stay. But sincerly I was try to keep it online for a long time. But some of the staff want the control of the site. Personally I cant understand that kind of person. I receive non-stop insult from they person. But do you really think I will give they all the control. He try to force me to sell my domain for 200$. Sorry but I dont sale. That why the price are so high (950$), its not because I want the money but if someone want to give me that I will sale. Seriously I know the staff, I know we have problem on booard. I'm presently in discussion with some of the staff to re-open the site. But if we re-open it will be without the 2 clown thinking it can take the control. I try to discuss but it was he's way or no way. But sorry I'm not like that. That person, I will dont tell he's name because its already showed on the site, want to take control of the theme shop too. Yeah right! 50% of the theme there was coded by me. I will give him my work yeah. If he want money, make theme! Anyway, after insult by email everyday I turn the switch to off. Now everyone calm down and we can discuss. I hope the discussion with the staff will have a good ending. |
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 @ 10:30 |
| Duckster writes CrazyCracks continued attempts to publicly slam Ghostspirit and myself and make us out to look like bad guys has made me feel it was time to make a public response telling our side of the story to let users better understand both views. I posted our response on the front of our new site and since it is a rather lengthy explanation I figure simply linking to it would be more prudent than filling up the comments box here The link to the article is here Nuke-Community.org [www.nuke-community.org] if you'd like to read our views. Thanks, Duck |
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 @ 13:20 |
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| Ped writes Nice post, took me a while to read. I have to say on your first point the theme issue and the 50% is correct, this is why i got my own site open and left the PNC team to devote my time to my own site. Im not taking sides though, Raven has removed your article.... I wont remove this not unless CC asks me to but he hasn't he asked me to post his comment above, Looks like he might be ready to re-open PNC |
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 @ 14:10 |
| Duckster writes At the urging of my friend Ghostspirit I removed the article referred to in the comment 2 above this one. While there wasn't any real slamming in the post he reminded me that perhaps the frustration we are feeling is causing us to digress from what's truly important and although someone has been trying to slander us lately we should ensure that we are not sinking to the same levels. I am still not sure we shouldn't be explaining our side of the story but for now the article is removed. So with that said can I ask the Admins here to please remove my short comment 6 posts up where I was tactless in somewhat slamming the other party currently involved in our dispute? Thanks very kindly for your understanding and also thank you for trying not to censor too much peoples opinions. I believe everyones voice should be heard whether each agree or not but it definitely should be written in tasteful language and not be downright slamming or slanderous. Again my apologies to the public should anything I have written offended anyone, Thanks - Duck |
Tuesday, June 19, 2007 @ 19:18 |
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| Ped writes I think you should just open you new site and just go separate ways, the underlining issue is CC started PNC and he doesn't want to "Give it away" hence why i think he will re-open the PNC site. You should just open up your www.nuke-community.org and get on with what ever you are wanting to achieve and put it all behind you, when i left PNC i was gutted and angry but look where i am now .... No looking back it was the best thing i ever did !! |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 01:16 |
| Duckster writes That is actually what I am trying to do but he is violating Human Rights, Article 19, sub article regarding "Restrictions On Freedom Of Speech" . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech#Restrictions_on_free_speech He is trying to publicly slander me on the front of his web page and if doesn't seize and desist by the end of today I will pursue legal action as I have had it with him! He is distorting the truth completely and it is absolutely not right! Your posting his flames here to does not help the situation! I would like his post referring to me removed please. |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 03:09 |
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| Ped writes You make me laugh Duckster aka Duck From a second them i thought i knew who you are You are Duck thats all i know about you how can you persue legal action ? .... Yeah this site here http://www.phpnuke-clan.net/ is slandering the Duck i want those comments about Duck removing asap ! and i want them closed down too... and i want compensation because they have ruined my reputation in the pond district...But why Mr Duck ? Because there dissin the Duckster ! aka Duck... that's why !!Now i could understand if he used your name and personal details but all he does is use the name "Duck" how on earth do you expect legal action to be taken on these grounds ? So it would now seem that the "Duck" and "Ghostspirit" are going it alone then ? Good luck and i wish you all the best in your new community project m8 |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 05:14 |
| Duckster writes Well actually my real name is tied to my nickname throughout the community and I do not hide my real identity. It is written inside the copyrights of the modules next to Duck and Duckster that are included in the CMS he distributes so I think I just might have a case. But of course I will have to check with a lawyer first. However I am glad to see your amused by this and find the soiling of my reputation thrilling. I had hoped you were better than that especially when you made the comments about CC site being defaced by hackers and that no matter how much you despised him you wouldn't wish that on anyone. Funny a site that is only a temporary upset and can be restored from back ups in a matter of minutes bothers you but you almost sound like you are relishing in the fact that someone will be more severely damaged in person of which it will take months if not years to repair? I guess you despise me extremely more than CC which I really don't quite understand even despite our recent differences? Ghost and I stood in battle on behalf of the Crew and community (they all were voting the same way) and we shielded everyone from danger and now we are lying wounded on the battlefield it will be curious to see if those we protected will help us heal our wounds after we helped them or will they just watch us bleed? |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 05:47 |
| Duckster writes Well I did further research and seems I do have case. These very types of issues have been and currently are being pursued by many individuals and in fact there is a somewhat well known case from your neck of the woods in the UK also using internet and aliases and the plaintiff was awarded $10 000 in damages for some libelous comments. Internet publishing would fall under Libel of defamation rather than slander apparently. Also the burden of proof is on the defendant in these cases as apposed to the plaintiff in normal criminal cases. He would have to prove his comments were in not only truthful but in the best interest of the public (not of interest to the public) and that would be virtually impossible as he has embellished nearly every statement to begin with and also the information is not in the best interest of the public. Further more I give some other reference: English law allows actions for libel to be brought in the High Court for any published statements which are alleged to defame a named or identifiable individual or individuals in a manner which causes them loss in their trade or profession, or causes a reasonable person to think worse of him, her or them. A statement can include an implication. I am sure he won't be laughing as much as you if MR. Duck does take this to court! |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 06:21 |
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| Ped writes I cant see it personally it wouldn't go no where, there is no comments on there that are un true is there ? he is stating the facts more like a blog of events that has happened over the last week and the way that individuals named "Duck" and "Ghostspirit" herassed and emailed him and tried to close the PNC project down. Still funny though how everything always ends up im gona sue you for this and that and this and that and this and that .... Why cant people just go there own way .... you were never asked to join PNC you volunteered, so why all the stink .. just leave and get over it and move on with your new site, its as simple as that no one will say OMG im not going on that site there the ones that were named on the PNC website... lol And your right i despise the PNC project as its crap, you can ask any good coder what they honestly think of the PNC distro and they will all say the same ... All PNC is good for is the new users that havnt got a clue and want everything done for them on a plate. |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 07:29 |
| Duckster writes Ok first of all he is not stating the truth on his site. Some of it is but lots of it is embelished for the purposes of making us look bad. And by law it does not matter if it is the truth. If his publishing it is for the purpose of libel or defamation than it is illegal. Even if it were the truth it must be in the publics best interest in order to publish it. NOT of interest to the public but IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC. Anouncing he has to close the site could be considered in the best interest of the public perhaps but sending the message of accusations and inuendo towrds 2 individuals are responsible is not! It is uneccessary libel and defamation of character and therefor illegal. Furthermore Ghost and I would have been happy to go our ways peacefully a while back but ALL the core staff had voted and agreed on the conditions of what we ALL wished to negotiate and what we ALL agreed we would not negotiate on. ALL the staf said and agreed that we didn't want to work on a project in a domain that was owned and controlled by one person and if CC wouldn't negotiate a transfer with us we would ALL leave. We made an offer and he realized he wasn't going to get the money he wanted so he said no thank you butI will keep the domain in my name. We said sorry but we ALL agreed that we could not accept that however if you feel you wish to make a case for more compensation for the domain please feel fee to do so and we will negotiate. But We've agreed we ALL want to work in a commmunity owned project from now on. Now you notice I caps ALL every time? Because it wasn't just mine and Ghost ideas and opinions it was everyones. But Ghost was the first to speak up and take our issues forward in a very nice and humble manner in which CC attacked him and claimed he was rogue and slammed him and stuff so I jumped to Ghosts defence saying no this is how we all feel and please calm down and talk rational. Now I was target number 2 and now with ghost we were the voices for everyone for the rest of the negotiation. While our TEam in private talked and voted and agreed with us they let us take all the flack in public. CC refused to bargain in any way regarding the ownership of the domain (which I am not saying isn't his right) but he has to also realize it is our right to leave but in spite he shut down the site and posted mine and Ghosts name on the front hurting both the community and our reputtations. Well I was furious and after 25 plus reasonable and fair letters finally got frustrated and lost my temper and sent him a nasty email calling him names and further antagonizing him with a spiteful demand. Foolish and wrong of me as I had now sunk to his level but he took this private email and used it to further paint a bad picture of me showing to everyone in the community and Xeno saying "See how nasty Duck is and what I have to put up with all these insults" It was one letter out of more than 2 dozen in which I kept restraint while he hurled insults and it was also a private email NOT a public bashing like he did a few times to me. So with that he also contrived a plan to hand over the Domain name to Xeno knowing if he can convince Xeno back the other half of the staff would follow. Well can you grasp for a moment how Ghost and I feel? Just try for sec to put yourself in our shoes! WE had stood up for the team as messengers and everyones voice and when we actually won by showing CC we were ALL serious he finally backs down and agrees to a transfer on the condition everyone shoots the messengers. So what does it look like they are gonna do? Lend credence to his inuendo and accusations that it was just Ghost and I acting as 2 rogues trying to tear a site and community down. Now you know the project we want to start. One that unites the whole community and brings as many developers etc together to build one massive awesome project. How the heck are ghost and I gonna stand a chance of doing that when the rest of the community is now gonna be afraid of us and not trust us? We would have left peacfully and not argued a thing if A. The crew didn't tell us they wanted us too and B. once we did and failed if CC did not defamate us publicly. See when we failed were were happy to leave peacefully and be the end of it and even then the staff could have went back and it wouldn't botther us cause we were excited about this new Community project anyway. But we can't build it alone (at least not a reasonable amount of time) and how are we to get help if the community sees us as pariah? By the Staff returning they are making it look like they had nothing to do with everything that happened and it's all ghost and I being rebels. I am sadly sadly disappointed and I was only on the project for a year! Think about how Ghost must feel when he has been on this project for 4 years since its infancy? We bith fel very let down by our Team mates but that is something we have to accept and are willing to move on peacefully but everyday CC keeps those messages up about us Which are not the full truth and just viscious sand spiteful he is hurting our reputation. Do we have to give up our Aliases we cherish and disapear and reemerge with new ones to avoid labeling? And really if we wanna be as active in the community as we hoped we cannnot cause even changing our aliases people will still know who were are. SO this isn't as simple as ignore and walk away unless he removes his libelous defamations. Then we can walk peacefully. BTW If you want to argue the legalities first inform yourself by reading the law not assuming you know it. That's what I do and I have read and it is very clear that we could should we wish to pursue have a very strong case. I have gathered evidence in regards to it in case but to be honest I would rather not I would rather walk and forget but if he doesn't stop I feel I may have no choice but to pursue legal action. |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 08:55 |
| Duckster writes P.S. I am also curious Ped haven't you stated you pursued action against people in regards to scripts and themes of yours? Why didn't you just let them walk away? Cause it was something important to you right? Please don't disrespect us by diminishing the importance of our issues. Ghost and my reputation in the community is far more important us than if someone stole our script or theme! No we don't wanna have to sue anyone but damn what other choice do we have Ghost asked him several times nicely to remove our names and pointed out is a violation of freedom of speech (he did not threaten sueing) to which he resonded nastily and then just added more innuendo with our names to the site. So you tell me how to stop him without a court order? |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 09:03 |
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| Ped writes I have to say he should remove the names Duck and Ghostspirit, because everybody knows who they are and i think thats wrong totally agree on that one. With regards to your first paragraph, thats what YOU would like to believe, i think that it would pass as BEST INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC because how many site users did he have ? approx 17,000 and how many people brought stuff from his shop ? i think your pissin in the wind there slightly, it would be a tough one to try and win and if you want to pay for that you must have more money than sence to be frank. On the issue regarding our commercial scripts that are copyrighted, I have closed sites down and had them remove our script on the grounds that there seems to be this common practice that people have a right to give/sell other peoples themes/scripts and my aim is to stop it before it gets any bigger. Nothing at all to do with the fact that im bothered i find it quite flattering that they want to use/sell our themes, must mean were doing something right ! It looks like you and ghost have been shat on, i agree if xeo goes back the others will prob go back too which leaves you two out on a limbo unfortunately. You should have just lef the project like i did and not taken none of it to heart.... Dam this is a great news comments article ! |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 10:41 |
| Duckster writes LOL yes this one damn active news thread! lol I did talk to a lawyer and he briefly said it is possible we would have a case but at the very least he feels an injunction would be easy. But I have sent cc an email with 1 more nice request asking him to remove it so I hope I do not have to try anything like that. We will see. I forgot to ask him if there is anything illegal about CC showing my private messages to other people so I am not sure about that issue but I think if he continues to libel us thru the community privately will still not be in his favour. I have evidence of him doing this too. But I also notice the post 3 posts up actually cut off the whole message and clicking the read more doesn't take you to the rest of it (something new for floppy to work on LOL) here is the missing portion of that post: We would have left peacfully and not argued a thing if A. The crew didn't tell us they wanted us too and B. once we did and failed if CC did not defamate us publicly. See when we failed were were happy to leave peacefully and be the end of it and even then the staff could have went back and it wouldn't botther us cause we were excited about this new Community project anyway. But we can't build it alone (at least not a reasonable amount of time) and how are we to get help if the community sees us as pariah? By the Staff returning they are making it look like they had nothing to do with everything that happened and it's all ghost and I being rebels. I am sadly sadly disappointed and I was only on the project for a year! Think about how Ghost must feel when he has been on this project for 4 years since its infancy? We both feel very let down by our Team mates but that is something we have to accept and are willing to move on peacefully but everyday CC keeps those messages up about us Which are not the full truth and just vicious sand spiteful he is hurting our reputation. Do we have to give up our Aliases we cherish and disappear and reemerge with new ones to avoid labeling? And really if we wanna be as active in the community as we hoped we cannot cause even changing our aliases people will still know who were are. SO this isn't as simple as ignore and walk away unless he removes his libelous defamations. Then we can walk peacefully. I have gathered evidence in regards to it in case but to be honest I would rather not I would rather walk and forget but if he doesn't stop I feel I may have no choice but to pursue legal action. End of missing portion |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 11:19 |
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| Ghostspirit writes I felt like I had to drop in to comment on this one just shortly before I'm off to bed for now.. I won't say much, seeing how this whole thing has really taken a lot of energy out of me, I need to step back for a while.. Anyone saying that "ah, him posting your online aliases might not hurt *that* much", here's a little something to look at.. Since he posted the first news on his site, mentioning my online alias, I've been BOMBED with scriptkiddies and hackers trying to take down many of my personal sites. (one is a graphic design site, the other one is my personal blog) How many? 96 to be exact. 96 attacks in less than 5 days. Screenshot of current mail inbox: http://wiiload.dk/sigh-hacks.JPG Regards, Emil Kjæhr aka GhostSpirit |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 17:10 |
| Duckster writes Yeah I have also been bombed profusely the past few days as well Mine are some where in the vicinity of 40 though I think but that's only one site. But still it is good demonstration of what his postings have brought. |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 19:16 |
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| floppy writes On a side note. I think I have a serious php modding addiction. HELP! |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 21:05 |
| Duckster writes lOL Floppy. Yeah I need a 12 step program to help me learn to turn off the bad machine too! Perhaps I can find one online?! BTW I like the effort but not crazy about the mod. And fix the read more problem first! lol |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 21:18 |
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| floppy writes Yeah I don't think the grey boxes fit at the bottom. That grey just doesn't work there. I don't know anything about the read more problem though. Point me in the right direction. |
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 @ 21:19 |
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| Ped writes CC has agreed to your request then by removing your names i see. For now if nothing change, all staff will stay in the PNC team exepted **** and ***********. I think i would have replaced them with For now if nothing change, all staff will stay in the PNC team exepted Goose and Scaryspirit. |
Thursday, June 21, 2007 @ 01:09 |
| Duckster writes LOL thats funny stuff dat dar! Yeah its at least better but a lot of damage is done and it is still somewhat implicating but I can live with it at least. it isn't us who shut the site down it was him but he makes it look like we did it. If he didn't like our negotiations he could remove our access and be done. There was no need to close the site and especially no need to imply it was our fault. He is making the community who use his site suffer needlessly. But whatever. the issue is done for me. On another note Yeah looks better Floppy without the Grey box but perhaps you could still have the nice formated info that was in it still just not boxed? The Read more thing I refer to is 10 comments above this one. It was a long comment post and if you see at the bottom of it it is cut off and says read more (which is a link and it actually says "We woread more") when I click that link I am redirected to the index page and I don't see the rest of the comment. |
Thursday, June 21, 2007 @ 12:39 |
| Duckster writes Ooops sorry it actually says "We woRead the rest of this comment..." |
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| floppy writes Ok fixed that. Thanks, I am working on trimming up peoples settings. Basically you show comments or you don't. FB has all this extra bullshit that is just not needed. I have all the formatted info I want. Less is More duck. |
Thursday, June 21, 2007 @ 13:08 |
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| Ped writes So it would seem that AreYouServed.com is taking over PNC then. After discussion with the staff team and discussion with some potentential buyer I have agree to a deal proposed by Rob the owner of AreYouServed.com. The transaction will be made the July 17th.Seems like duck aka duckster and ghostspirit got shat on by there so called mates. After so many years i have learnt to never ever ever trust no one, sort of sad but it works better than getting shat on. |
Sunday, June 24, 2007 @ 05:27 |
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| Ghostspirit writes Just because one person has let you down does not justify loosing faith in humanity, nor does this justify abandoning hope all together.. Also, even though I have no way to be sure of this, I believe that the new owner will be starting from scratch in regards with staff - seeing how the last member we now positively is still in the staff is CC. |
Sunday, June 24, 2007 @ 09:42 |
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| Ped writes I think it will be a case of wait and see on this issue, i did get a email from CC the other day he said he was in talks with all the old moderators ... He never said if it was good or bad he did say it all relied on whatever Xeo wanted to do .... and i can sort of understand that as Xeo does it all and runs the whole PNC distro ... it was as well be renamed from PNC to XEO .. lol |
Sunday, June 24, 2007 @ 09:52 |
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| Troxy writes Shame ;/ |
Wednesday, July 04, 2007 @ 10:55 |
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| Venny writes OMG!!!! |
Tuesday, July 17, 2007 @ 04:12 |
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| Tiffer writes Worse News I Have Heard So Far! :( |
Friday, July 27, 2007 @ 09:36 |
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| Lunat1k writes I just have to laugh every time I hear the name Crazycrack............ Sorry I know this is an old post but I just had to chime in here....I am Scott from SQuery Gaming inc. and I have been involved with this from day one and I have to say he is not a very business savvy person, I have had him threaten me on my own site on PNC and on a few other blogs and forums, personally I do not let it bother me, but when he attempted to sell my script thats when I went ballistic! YES he advised the potential buyer that the squery script went with it, I squashed that real fast and anyone that would think they could own it did not do there homework. it is based on open source with a lot of proprietary scripting built in, we do not charge for it and want to keep it free to all, we are working on 2 versions a free one and a paid one. I do not want to see any site get taken down, because there are those behind the scenes that work very hard at the scripts and managing the forums and up keep on the site, i know this first hand as I have many that assist on our site and we have 5 million + registered users, bringing me to my point...... I know you have all worked hard on the PNC script and if you are interested and it does not in any way take away from the PNC work you may be doing now, I offer to you a position at SQuery on the coding team and or site areas, I am so busy in school right now it is not funny and I have no time to work on anything other than school work, i am completing my MCSE track and it is not easy. So if any one is interested please do not hesitate to contact me or my web manager Hamms @ squery .com and let us know, we will get you started asap. Thanks for your time. Scott |
Thursday, August 09, 2007 @ 09:32 |
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| ShockDoc writes I can't see anny comments by this article, anyone knows what's the cause? |
Monday, August 27, 2007 @ 03:15 |
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| AreYouServed writes I happened to come across this thread, and figured I'd give a bit of an update. I'm not going to comment on what took place, as that is not my place, but I thought I would let people know that We have taken over ownership of the site from CrazyCrack, in efforts to make sure the PNC project as a whole does not die. We have numerous client who use it, and I have used it myself as well. It has had potential for a long time, and it is our belief that if managed properly, it can succeed in being a valuable CMS system, particularly for clans out there who are looking for such a system. Just wanted to let everyone know! :) |
Thursday, September 06, 2007 @ 21:08 |
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| Ped writes Its nice to see some great comments comming out of this article, and im sure we can get along fine, i agree though on 1 major point Crazycrack is a bad buisness individual. As i said before he got all shitty with me because i wouldnt add my themes to his shop at a 50/50 split ! Apart from that i wish both the PNC and Squery project good look, In my own opinion though PNC needs to put them selves into gear though as future nuke are making a clan edition and its gona knock u for six ! As for Squery i always use LGSL so i cant really comment on how good a script you guys have, perhaps we could see a nice news article with some demo's here at clan-themes soon. Cheers Ped |
Friday, September 07, 2007 @ 03:21 |
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| Zefyr writes Super |
Sunday, September 09, 2007 @ 11:46 |
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| Keslertje2005 writes bad news :O THanks fo those other links btw! |
Thursday, September 13, 2007 @ 05:14 |
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| AkAFluke writes well that's really to bad! :(( |
Wednesday, September 19, 2007 @ 08:27 |
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| msimonds writes Did that site ever sell for 950? |
Tuesday, October 16, 2007 @ 20:31 |
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| r3skyline writes i was wondering what happened to it.... |
Thursday, October 18, 2007 @ 12:24 |
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